[00:00:00] Speaker A: Oh, and I forgot to even, like, mention, like, the the girl. I I really liked her. Katrina Bowden. She's been in so many, like, TV shows, I i didn't realize that I remembered her from 30 Rock. She's the intern or the assistant in 30 Rock.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: Did you ever watch I watched 30 Rock. I don't remember that.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah, she's she's like, character the the young, pretty, like, secretary for the writers.
And I was like, oh, that's her. But she's been in a lot of kind of exploitation kind of movies.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Piranha 3D.
[00:00:38] Speaker C: Right?
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw that on the list.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but a million TV shows. She's been on a lot of TV shows.
Welcome to Five Minute Film Finder, brought to you by Pioneer Library System.
Hello, and welcome to another episode of Five minute film Finder. I am Ben, and today joining me is Darren.
It's spooky season. We've got some horror comedies today, or.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: I think a horror comedy and a funny horror drama thing. I don't know what to call it. It's a little weird.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot to unpack with the second movie of today. The first one is definitely straight up horror comedy kind of playing with the genre. But are you a big horror fan?
[00:01:28] Speaker B: I am sort of a big horror fan. I'm getting old and scared in my old age, so I don't do the super hard horrors anymore like I used to.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: I feel more vulnerable.
[00:01:39] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: But, yeah, I enjoy a good scare and I like some of the classics.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I came to horror very late in life, so I was too scared as a kid and then realized as I was older, it's like, oh, these are fun, as long as it's not like, as you said, the super hard stuff. I really enjoy a lot of horror, and these ones are kind of fun. Poking at the tropes of the genre, kind of exploring what is going on there. So without further ado, I think we'll jump in and start talking about our first movie, which will be Tucker and Dale Versus Evil. Will Helm start the timer?
All right, so Tucker and Dale Versus Evil is about Tucker and Dale, our titular heroes, a couple of hillbilly redneck. Kind of like, not stereotypes. They're kind of, like, trying to buck the stereotype.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: On the surface. Right. Like, the initial impression is that this is a very much okay, these guys are rednecks.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. But they're just a couple of sweet best friends who are going to check out this new inheritance of a cabin.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: In the cabin that they got.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: So it's very much like playing with that classic scary hill people kind of hills have eyes almost of like, oh, there's scary hill folk out there.
And the fun thing about this movie is it's kind of like flipping that genre on its head. There's college kids who turn out to be the monsters for the most part.
[00:03:22] Speaker C: Right.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: It's a little weird if you haven't seen the movie. But the college students are the genesis for the action in the movie rather than the hillbillies, as they're shown.
[00:03:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: And this isn't a spoiler. This happens fairly quickly, almost immediately. And it's kind of just the fun of exploring all this. It's almost like a slapstick comedy, but with all the imagery of horror movie.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: The first couple of death scenes, specifically are hilarious.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Because of the way they're set up.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: So the whole mean first of, I love.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, you can't go.
[00:04:10] Speaker A: Not I wouldn't say he's the main character. He's like kind of the side main character to Tucker, who is played by Tyler Lebine. Tyler Lebine, who is so sweet.
You know him from probably a lot of TV show appearances. They both have a heavy voice actor career.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Lots of voice acting. Yeah. The Tyler Lebanese on a TV show, a medical TV show right now. I can't remember the name. Okay, nice.
[00:04:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: But it's pretty popular. I think that's out right now. But yeah, he's been around quite a bit on TV and in some movies.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I feel like the majority of the weight of this movie is carried by just how sweet Tyler Lebine is and.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Also throughout the face of what he thinks is just a horrific event going on in front of him and he doesn't know how to even process it.
[00:05:01] Speaker C: Right.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:05:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: And the game of the movie is just like they're just kind of minding their own business, trying to fix up their cabin, trying to go the kind of inciting event is that they're out fishing and they see this girl fall into the water, hit her head, so they save her. But then her friends see this and they're like the scary hillbilly that they.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Had seen earlier at the gas station and got creeped out because they were stereotyping and stuff.
[00:05:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Right.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: And so all our friends run off scared that their friend got kidnapped by these scary hill people.
[00:05:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: And so it just gets wackier from there.
Do you have any favorite bits from this movie?
[00:05:48] Speaker B: The scene where the teens come across the college students come across the cabin and she's digging the hole.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: It's so good. That whole bit through that bit there.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: And she's digging her old grave. That's so messed up. I really love like, there's lots of references to specific horror films. Alan Tudick's character is sawing a log and disturbs a beehive with his chainsaw.
[00:06:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: With his chainsaw. And then he, of course, gets swarmed by bees. And so he comes around the cabin, like, swinging the chainsaw very much texas Chainsaw Massacre.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Perfect impression. And yeah. Everybody's just running from the bees.
[00:06:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: And there's so many and then they run from him.
[00:06:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: It's little moments like that. That being said, little warning for our listeners. If you are queasy at all with violence. It is a graphically violent movie, even though it is like a comedy horror.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: It is played for the laughs, but they are graphic deaths.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Yes, it is quite gory. So bear that in mind if that is something you do not like.
And I think that is probably our time.
But I love this movie.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Me too. Personally, it's kind of my favorites.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Those nice, light hearted horror movies that you can throw on just like, this is fun. It's poking fun at the genre without the intensity of watching a full on horror movie.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: And like you said, mostly because Tyler Lebine kind of carries that throughout his sweetness and stuff and just kind of centers the movie.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Absolutely.
And it is available on canopy. And we'll take a quick break and then we'll talk about our other movie.
And we are back. So today, Darren, what are we talking about?
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Our second movie that we're going to talk about today is Horns, which is based on the novel by Joe Hill, son of Stephen King, starring Daniel Radcliffe, Juno Temple, a bunch of other people that we'll talk about, directed by Alexander Aja, who's known for some of his genre films. In the horror stuff. He has high Tension, a French film. The Hills Have Eyes remake, which was pretty good.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: I was shocked to see that he was that guy because I was just like, who is this guy? Because it has such an interesting tone. But then I was like, oh, okay, it's this guy.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah, he brings some of that weird French stuff that he's known for, that he started with and kind of just sprinkles that through the movie. And it just gives it kind of a different taste than you get from a normal American stuff that you might have gotten from somebody else.
Most famously, recently, I think there's a crocodile or alligator movie called Crawl, which was kind of intense, been pretty good. I think that came out a couple of years ago. And he did that one too. So he's done some interesting stuff. And like I said, Horns, I think it was done pretty well. It didn't do well box office wise of the movies we're talking about today. It did poorly. It's rated more poorly.
[00:09:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: And there's some reasons for that, Tonally. It's kind of all over the place. We struggled to describe it in the beginning.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: Right.
You have to describe it in way too many words because it just doesn't quite get nailed down anywhere along the way. It's kind of a mystery.
And even more so than the book, I think, because spoiler, maybe they reveal the killer a little earlier in the story in the book. So they made some different choices. The author, Joe Hill has said, though, that he likes the movie and especially liked Daniel Radcliffe's performance, which I thought was great.
[00:09:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: And if you're not familiar, Joe Hill is Stephen King's son, who is also a prolific horror writer and also comic book horror writer.
And you can kind of feel like the fun weirdness of his other writing in this project.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Yeah. His ideas are a little different and he comes at things from a different way. And I think it makes for some interesting stuff in the genre.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Absolutely.
I really like this movie. It's so strange.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Me, too.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: This wasn't the first time I watched it, but the first time I watched it, I had the same feeling I had this time of like, wow, that made me feel a lot of things.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: But I had fun, like, all over the place because there's some scenes that are super intense. Some of the scenes with his parents, kathleen Quinlan and James Ramire. Both great in this movie. Great actors, but just gutting scenes.
[00:10:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: It gets personal drama, really heavy.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: But then there's also scenes that are just, like, almost slapsticky.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Like the scene with the fight scene with the reporter. The reporter fight scene is good.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: And then the bar stuff is say, the horror movie has some horror elements. Nudity and graphic violence, drug use. A lot of adult content in this movie to drive this story. So beware on that. But like I said, I think it's great.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah.
The whole time I was distracted watching The Girlfriend because I don't know if you watched Ted Lasso, I have seen.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: A little bit of it not the whole thing.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Juno Temple is keely.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: And I just kept being like, who is she? And I finally looked her up, I was like, That's Keeley.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: Okay, great.
And, yeah, she's lovely and kind of helps drive home.
Kind of a really sad movie when you get to the end that you don't expect it to be kind of like a satisfying dramatic ending.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Right. And I mean, it's a tragedy. The whole thing that plays out in a very much a tragedy format.
Yeah. It's kind of intense.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Lots of weird stuff. Like, the whole thing is kind of I think we're about out of time, but we haven't even talked about the main kind of conceit of it. But the whole thing plays around a murder. It's a murder mystery turned into revenge, turned into interpersonal drama.
A little bit of Stand by Me with friends who grew up together, a lot of things going on. But the conceit is that Daniel Radcliffe is suspected of the murder of his girlfriend, kind of forsakes God or curses himself during some acts of bitterness around him being a suspect, and starts growing horns.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: Wakes up from a bender, basically, and his forehead starts having little pokies on it.
[00:12:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: And then these horns also seem to have the effect of releasing people's inhibitions and making them want to sin or whatever way you want to frame that. But it makes people's deepest, darkest desires.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Come out and they're willing to voice them.
[00:13:07] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: And that is played both to very dark and very silly effects in different parts of the movie. But that being said, it's a fun movie. It's kind of all over the place. If you are comfortable with the trappings of a horror movie, it kind of has a lot more than a standard horror to it. Would you?
[00:13:27] Speaker C: Depth.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Right? You know, there's a lot more depth because of the emotions that I think Daniel Radcliffe brings to the role and carries that throughout the whole think. It's like I said, there's a lot more there than just a typical horror movie.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And this adds to the long list of Daniel Radcliffe just weird on these interesting, fun, absurd roles. Like we were talking last week when we selected these movies. Guns of Kimbo was such a wild, fun ride and he's just been taking and Miracle Workers, which I haven't watched, but I've heard incredible things about of just him really having fun, doing silly and strange and kind of like pushing.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Being in a position where he made a bunch of money as a kid. He doesn't really have to push as.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Hard using his clout, like a very fun way rather than just like resting on it.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Spent a whole movie playing a dead body. I mean, come on.
[00:14:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: Which another movie that we covered with Daniel Radcliffe, directed by the Daniels Swiss army man.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: Great movie.
And coming into horns. The first time I saw it, I wasn't a Potter fan. So like, this was my first experience with Daniel Radcliffe the first time I saw the movie. And I was know this Harry Potter guy could kind of do this acting thing.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: All right, well, that was Horns. So thank you for joining us. We'll be doing more horror movies this month.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: Very exciting.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: We're excited to be back and rolling again. Keep with us. Tell your friends, like follow subscribe if there's anything that you're excited about or you would like to talk to us about, you can email us at podcast
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And we'd love to hear from you. Until next time.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Bye. See you later.
[00:15:24] Speaker C: You close.