[00:00:01] Speaker A: An FBI agent. I'm like, I'm an FBI agent.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Agent.
The annunciation of the FBI. FBI.
[00:00:16] Speaker C: Welcome to five Minute Film Finder brought to you by Pioneer Library System.
Hello and welcome to a special episode of five five Minute Film Finder from Pioneer Library System. This is one of our deep focus episodes. So if you don't know what that means, it means we're going to get to spend more than five minutes, really dig in on a movie that we think is extra special.
Today I am joined by Tracy and Darren.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Hi.
[00:00:52] Speaker C: Are you guys excited to talk about.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: I'm so excited to talk about this movie.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: I can't wait.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: A couple times already since we've been hanging out, I've had to be like, we should probably save it. We should probably save it.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: We are the action buds. We are here to talk about one of I think the peak of 90s action movies also kind of spawned a genre of action movies going forward.
We were talking about point break from 1991.
Thoughts? Feelings?
[00:01:27] Speaker A: Oscar award winning director, Kathryn Bigelow.
[00:01:29] Speaker C: Catherine Bigelow.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:31] Speaker C: Incredible.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: It's really interesting because if you watch some of the, some of her more recent movies, there's a lot in common. Like she has very similar things that she can see.
[00:01:42] Speaker C: She has a voice, those shots of.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: The surfers and stuff up close and different things like that. Yeah, yeah, very interesting.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: I mean just also knowing that she has made so many films that are about war. Some of the like action scenes in this particularly, there's like a couple of chase scenes in this where you're like, yeah, this is war. We're doing it.
[00:01:58] Speaker C: It's, it's very much non gratuitous. It's, it's like trying to like make these things seem bad and hard.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Like the raid on the house is very, very much feels like a botched raid on a house. Yeah.
[00:02:12] Speaker C: It feels bad and stressful. It doesn't feel like, oh cool, they're really taking them down.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: But it is ultra stylized.
There is such a vision. I'm so glad we're in it already. I'm so happy.
[00:02:23] Speaker C: Yeah. So as we said, Katherine Bigelow, this is her fourth film, her first film, the Loveless second, Near Dark third Blue Steel. You're, you're a big.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: So good.
[00:02:36] Speaker C: Okay. What's, what's its vibe?
[00:02:38] Speaker B: Okay. It's a vampire movie.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: Great.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: You don't know if.
[00:02:42] Speaker C: I have not seen, I have not.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Seen Near Dark is so good.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Bill Paxton, we love, plays a punk vampire guy. It's great. Well, it's great.
[00:02:50] Speaker C: I'm sold.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God. You just described my perfect boyfriend.
Wow. So crazy that we're here today.
[00:02:58] Speaker C: For those who don't know Katherine Bigelow already, her more recent films that are very, very famous. Zero Dark Thirty, the Hurt Locker.
Yeah. She's got a such a strong vibe.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:14] Speaker C: Right out the gate. Like, how much do we love Keanu in this?
[00:03:21] Speaker A: I love Keanu in everything. But boy howdy, in the first truly few minutes of this movie where it's pouring down rain and then he turns around and he knows that he is a movie star. And Kathryn Bigelow also knows that he is a movie star and that Rayn knows he is a movie star.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: The opening montage of this is perfection. Not often do I feel good about a montage. No context. Just dropped in at the beginning to be like, here. You know where we're at.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: This is the vibe. Yeah, but it's so good.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Several minutes into this movie before someone says anything, because it's Johnny Utah, main character.
[00:04:08] Speaker C: Incredible name.
[00:04:11] Speaker B: Johnny Utah.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: I want to talk about Johnny Utah as a name for 17 minutes.
[00:04:14] Speaker C: Not a nickname. No actual name.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: His legal name is Johnny Utah. And we're just like, obviously.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: And nobody calls him John. No, it's never John Utah or John.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: Maybe once the. Oh, I just forgot the actor's name. But the guy who's from Scrubs, that's in this movie.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: John C. McGinley.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: John C. McGinley does call him, like, John Utah or something. And I'm like, no, we can't be doing that. No, no. But it's him shooting those paper targets. Assuming this is his final test at Quantico, question mark. Intercut with the most gorgeous shots of Patrick Swayze looking like a God upon earth, surfing the waves.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Sun. Yeah.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: Stunning. And it's just minutes of that, of you setting up these two guys, their vibes. Bodhi being Zen Buddhist, master surfer man. Johnny Utah being a young, dumb FBI agent.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: And, like, he doesn't fire very many shots in the whole rest of the movie.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: No.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:13] Speaker C: They really set up that he's like a shooter, right? Like, he does all that.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: But there is a point. Oh, my God. I'm like. But it's all connected. Because the whole thing is that they know he's a good shot. Hi. If you've never seen this movie, go watch it immediately and then come back and listen to us nerd out. Because there is a scene later where he purposefully misses a shot.
And then his partner, Gary Busey playing as far as I Can tell Gary Busey is like, you don't miss. And we've seen that already.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: We've seen that already.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Perfect score, or whatever the guy says at the beginning of the movie.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Truly, the first line is just a man validating Keanu Reeves, which also really sets it up. So the montage scene happens, and it's just a man being like, good job.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: And not just that. He looks really happy about it too. Like, he's thrilled beyond belief that Utah just did so well.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Batman's in a McDonald's commercial.
[00:06:08] Speaker C: So for context, this is like kind of his first big serious role. He's been in some like. Or first big leading serious role.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he'd been in Bill and Ted already.
[00:06:19] Speaker C: Yep. That was in 89.
He's been in a lot of TV in the 80s.
Parenthood as a minor character. I love you to death as a minor character.
But tune in tomorrow, which I'm not even familiar with.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Oh, I think I have seen that. Is that the radio movie?
[00:06:39] Speaker C: That sounds right.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: If that is that, that's an insane film and we all need to talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. But then this is the same year this comes out as.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: He has.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: My own Private Idaho comes out this.
[00:06:53] Speaker C: Year, as well as Bill and Ted's bogus journey, all in 91, which are.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Three huge films for Keanu Reeves.
[00:07:00] Speaker C: Yes. This. This launches him huge. Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: Like, yeah, absolutely. Sets off Keanu Reeves as like, how we know Keanu Reeves.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: And then right after this, you get speed. And then like, from there, it's just like, you know.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
As we all said, we are big Keanu fans. John Wick, obviously. Matrix.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:07:19] Speaker C: Speed.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Speed.
[00:07:21] Speaker C: I watched Constantine earlier today just because I was in a Keanu mood. And I was just like, I want it.
[00:07:27] Speaker A: He's kind of great in that movie.
[00:07:29] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like, it's a quietly awesome.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: It kind of rules. It kind of got a bad rap because it's not accurate to the comic books. Correct. Which also rule very hard. But he's great at that.
[00:07:44] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: And then of course, Swayze.
[00:07:47] Speaker C: Swayze, who is already a big star coming off of some of his most iconic films.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Dirty dancing is what, four years before.
[00:07:55] Speaker C: 87, Roadhouse, 89, Ghost, 1990s, literally the year before. All just like leading right. Right up to this. So he's like. He's at the peak of his power. Keanu's just coming into it. Swayze not looking like his usual cute, swept back vibe. Little mullet, little goatee.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: He looks incredible in this Movie. Yeah, I was into it. Apparently that is his real hair. Apparently that's not a wig. He did grow it out for this film. He did commit in many ways to both that hair and apparently a ton of the stunt work at this.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Like, I believe it.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: He was an avid skydiver. Like, he loves. He loves skydiving.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: I think he. I saw that he had done like 50 jumps for this movie.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: He did five jumps for this movie. Movie.
[00:08:42] Speaker C: Incredible.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: And then also had surfed some, but did learn to surf and did a ton of the surfing scenes for this because he.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I was shocked because, like viewing this movie now on a nice big high definition tv, you can see the stunt people better. But you do. You're like, oh, that's actually him. He's actually doing. He's doing some surfing.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: Keanu Reeves too, like, some of the surfing scenes.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Lori Patty, I think did. Did as much of her own surfing as she could. Yeah.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Oh, Lori Petty. Me and. Me and Darren were talking a few days ago about Lori Petty.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Are you guys both huge Tank Girl fans? Yes, of course.
I was like, these are two men who love Tank Girl. No, I love A League of Their Own.
[00:09:25] Speaker C: Well, same.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: She's so good in that movie.
[00:09:27] Speaker C: It's weirdly similar energy for her characters in those.
Like one obviously over the top, but she's. Yeah, she's just so fun and sweet and those crazy eyes are so expressive and just sell so much.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: She's a lot sadder in this movie.
[00:09:49] Speaker A: Yeah, she is. Because people keep lying to her.
[00:09:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Honestly, Johnny's kind of a jerk.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah, Johnny's the worst.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: It's hard to believe that this movie came out before Tank Girl did it. Well, me and Darren were discussing this. Tank Girl feels like a late 80s movie, but it's a 1995 movie.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, you just blew my mind.
[00:10:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Because it feels like the Super Mario Brothers movie. It's just like post apocalypse, just enough.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: Over the top to where like, it's.
[00:10:18] Speaker C: A little goofy crazy. Nobody's really that upset that they're in a post apocalypse. They're like, it's a living.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: Yeah, but, but 95. Really? Wow, that's bonkers.
[00:10:30] Speaker C: Yeah, it's post League of Their Own, which was the next year after Point Break. Yeah, but. Yeah. So do you guys kind of like walk through the movie?
[00:10:42] Speaker A: We want to talk about the plot of this movie, which we haven't done.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: Would you like to read the IMDb plot?
[00:10:48] Speaker A: You know I would. You know, it's my favorite thing, the IMDb plot synopsis. Is an FBI agent goes undercover to catch a gang of surfers who may be bank robbers. Which Darren has chosen to point out is the opposite. It is a gang of bank robbers who may be surfers is really what the plot follows.
[00:11:07] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: The beginning of the movie set up. The Gary Busey character is the old grizzled FBI agent and he recruits Johnny Utah into the. Hey, we're going to catch these surfing bank robbers.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Yes. He has a theory in the. The bank robbing division of the LA FBI office, which apparently bank robbing was a huge issue.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: In la.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Bank robbery capital of the world at the time.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And the movie is happy to point that out to us.
And they have this case, it's the X presidents, ex Presidents have robbed 27 banks in three years, I think, is what they say at the beginning. 30 by the end, because they rob, I think, three more banks during the movie.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: That sounds right.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: And it's a gang of guys, four guys in masks that are former presidents of the United States.
[00:12:05] Speaker C: Yep. We got Reagan, Nixon.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Nixon, Carter and lbj.
[00:12:11] Speaker C: Lbj, yeah.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: And obviously the Nixon one stands out the most because he's got that flopping nose that when he's running around the whole movie, it's great.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Also, he's committing the most to doing the accent, like the footage that we see at the beginning of them. And I guess we technically see the bank robbery one, that first scene where they're in the car and we don't quite yet realize it's Patrick Swayze, but it is Patrick Swayze. We know that he's in the Reagan mask. He turns around and in the Reagan voice is like, it's time to rock and roll. I was like, this is horrifying, what is happening.
[00:12:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: I was like. And their whole thing is they go in, they rob banks, they never shoot anyone, they just take the money out of the drawer. They're in and out in 90 seconds, timed.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: They're very on the ball, precise, no screwing around. Yeah.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is why they've been able to rob 27 banks in three years or whatever.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Successfully.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Yes.
And Gary Busey, playing Gary Busey, has a theory.
[00:13:12] Speaker C: He's on the case. He's been assigned a hot new agent.
[00:13:16] Speaker A: Which he's unhappy about.
[00:13:17] Speaker C: He's very displeased.
So Keanu, when he yells at Gary Busey.
What? What? What a fun scene.
The biggest he's ever gone in his career.
Like, it's close.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: He really does kind of like go for it.
[00:13:42] Speaker C: Yeah. He doesn't blow up that often.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: No, I mean, I'm just thinking of, like, times where he's been that animated. And I think of him in Much Ado About Nothing when he's like, I'd rather be a canker in a hedge. But he's still just Keanu Reeves reading off Shakespeare, but doing his best to sound important so it equal to that for me. But, yeah, he does blow up. And he's just, like, trying to make Gary Busey angry.
Hey, succeeds. Don't think that's a hard thing to do since Gary Busey is really pushing them by. Oh, my gosh.
[00:14:15] Speaker C: You set Gary Busey off playing Gary.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: Busey in this film.
And he's like, hey, doesn't this make you feel alive? What if we caught some bank robbers?
[00:14:28] Speaker C: Wouldn't that feel great?
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go catch some bank robbers.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:34] Speaker C: So now we're off and in it.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:37] Speaker C: And so the first and really only bit of evidence he has that he's based this off of is surfboard wax and tan lines. Tan lines.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: Don't forget tan lines.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: Tan lines.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: Yeah. An important element.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: They come up. It's important because during the robberies, I don't know if it's always, but at least during the one that we see.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Yeah. They show the nice shot on camera.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: They usually moon people when they leave.
[00:15:06] Speaker C: It's part of their exit.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: And so Gary Busey's like, look at those tan lines. Only person who could have that surfer.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Like, nobody else in LA takes off their shirt.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: No. Nobody else in LA goes to the beach.
It's just the surfers. And so they decide that Keanu needs to go not exactly undercover. Cause he's still just out there being like, my name's Johnny Utah.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: Right. Yep.
[00:15:34] Speaker C: He's just being him.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: But he's going to infiltrate the surf community.
[00:15:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Like, the least undercover he could possibly be. Like, he just said. He doesn't say, I'm an FBI agent. And that's it.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Yes. Otherwise, go be a surfer. I'm Johnny Utah. I'm a surfer.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: So he says he's a lawyer.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I think he did go to law school.
[00:15:55] Speaker C: Yeah. So he goes out, he tries to surf. Immediately. Almost drowns.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:16:02] Speaker C: And who comes to save him? Our angel.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Furious angel, Lori Petty.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Just ripping into him the whole time, you idiot.
[00:16:12] Speaker C: You're trying to commit suicide out here.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: And he's like, the love of my life. Immediately perfect. Yes. And he.
[00:16:21] Speaker C: He does a background check on her.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And is like, well, she's a criminal. The woman in this scene is everything to me. Cause he's listing off her.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Yes, yes.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Felonies and everyone. She just goes, hot, very hot.
[00:16:39] Speaker C: And I'm like, who is this assistant agent who's going through some. It's you.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: It's me. I was like, relatable queen, I love you.
But Gary Busey just gets mad at him for wanting to flirt with a girl.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Which he can tell from the description of her background check because this is 1991, so there are no Internet photos included in it. It's all green text.
[00:17:06] Speaker C: I like that he was able to estimate her weight just by looking at her. He's like 119 pounds. Got her.
So this leads to the scene that broke my mind open. And I was like, I know this movie. This is one of my other favorite movie franchises. He goes to see Lori Petty at her work at a surf restaurant, like Beachside restaurant, to hit her up for surfing lessons. Essentially.
If you haven't figured it out already, the movie is the Fast and the Furious.
There are so many scenes from this movie that are direct, like lifts and reinterpretations from or into the Fast and the Furious movie. So like Paul Walker goes and is.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Jordana Brewster the sandwich shop front restaurant of the mechanic shop.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's like. I was just like, it's crazy how these are the same scene.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Yeah. The only difference is that in Fast and Furious, that's.
Oh my gosh, is Mia her name. Mia is Dom's sister.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: And in this we have a little bit more of a love triangle situation where Tyler, which is the Lori Pettig character, is Bode's former love ex girlfriend.
[00:18:42] Speaker C: Ish.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: I don't know.
It's left pretty vague.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: He says at one time they spent time.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Spent time.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: They spent time. Yeah.
[00:18:52] Speaker C: They're really leaning into the like California.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: Hippie of it very much. Yeah.
[00:19:00] Speaker C: But yeah, from here on out, like it just starts kind of like moving along.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Point out quick point though, that Johnny Utah does full outline. He's like, I too have dead parents to trick her into giving.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: He got that from. From the. The. The infra information that they pulled up on her file. Found out she had dead parents.
[00:19:22] Speaker C: And that's my inn. Yep, exactly.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah, that's my inn.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: I was like, how dare you?
[00:19:28] Speaker C: Her parents are dead. That's my in.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: He's like, I'm Batman.
[00:19:32] Speaker C: I also have dead parents.
And it works.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: He plays the card and he's like, oh, I gotta go surfing cuz my parents are dead. Basically, like, I gotta do something.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: The Ocean called to me in a way that my dead parents never could. Right.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: And she buys it. Yeah.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Poor Lori Petty. She's so used and abused in this movie, but through Lori Petty.
[00:19:57] Speaker C: Yeah. So now we're just bouncing back and forth between him learning how to surf and them being like, are you just learning to surf out there?
[00:20:07] Speaker B: He comes into work with a surfboard.
[00:20:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: That shot of like the multi security camera shot where there's like eight frames of him holding the surfboard. I love it.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: So good.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: That's a good one.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: And he not only with a surfboard though, he does come into the FBI offices with a surfboard and a tank top. Like he's not even pretending that he's coming into work. I too was like, hey, John McKinley, maybe you're in the right here. To yell at this man who is just like, my job for the FBI is to surf right now. Even though he says he's doing it on his own time. But I'm like, sir, no you're not. You're out there in broad daylight hours. It is noon.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: You're carrying it into work.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Yeah. You're simply not good stuff.
[00:20:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: And then right in there you meet.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Patrick Swayze's character, Bodhi and Bodhi's gang.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Bodhi's gang.
[00:21:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
Where is that? Where does that happen?
[00:21:11] Speaker A: So at some point they are.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah, she's teaching him to surf.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Surf. And then Bod sees them and is like, are you replacing me?
[00:21:19] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: And then.
[00:21:21] Speaker C: Cuz he comes and just like kisses her on the mask.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: Yes. And then takes her aside for a second. And then I think is the iconique beach football scene.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:21:31] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: They're gonna be good there because they're gonna be, you know, get Johnny in there and show him throwing the football a little bit.
[00:21:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: I read Keanu Reeves practiced.
[00:21:42] Speaker C: Great.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: Make sure he looked good as a qb.
[00:21:44] Speaker A: He does. He looks great. Everybody looks great all the time in this movie. That's one of the best parts of the movie, is that it's complete and total eye candy.
And also these two men are in love. I'm sorry, I could throw that in.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: Bromance right from the start.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Well, truly, Keanu Reeves, during this beach football game, tackles Patrick Swayc and comes up with a piece of his heart. They are.
[00:22:11] Speaker C: Everybody's like, yeah, they're going to beat him out.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: They are. Because they're like, why would you. Because he does take him down, like into the ocean pretty hard. And then Bode. Patrick Swayze comes Up with knowledge. He emerges from the ocean with knowledge. We can't be mad at this man. This is Johnny Utah. He was the quarterback for the Ohio State team. And then they all just immediately, oh, that's right. Despite the fact this is as we Talked about earlier, 1991. And there is not real Internet. They're like, yes, we all know what Johnny Utah, a quarterback for a college football team who was in the Rose bowl three years ago, looks like.
[00:22:48] Speaker C: Which, like, that's a trope you'll see in more modern movies like Fast and Furious. Like, they do a background. Like they have a hacker who does a background check on the guy to be like, is he cool? But like, they just know stuff about him.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: They just like, everyone knows that. They're like, oh, yes, Johnny Utah, who was at the Rose bowl and tweaked his knee.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Wrecked his knee.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: Yes. Bent his knee 90 degrees the wrong way, I believe is the quote, which is visceral. And hey, guess what? That comes up again.
One of the major issues of this film is knee problems.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Not a lot of throwaway lines. Like, they bring it. They bring it back.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: It really is all like, it ties back in. The script is some idiot savant stuff. It's really stupid. But it's also really perfect. Yeah, it's just great. It all. There's not any fat on it.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Very precise.
Which goes right along with the theme of the movie.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: Rob Banks write good movies.
[00:23:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:57] Speaker C: Yep. So now we're in the. He's continuing to learn how to surf.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Yes. Which he does for a while.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: He goes to the wrong beach. He gets jumped by a gang of locals led by Anthony Kiedis of Red Hot Chili Peppers.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: He also partially gets.
Cause he's pulling people's hair out. At one point, him and Gary Busey.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Be like, that's right. I forgot that going along yanking out hairs.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: Get us one of the bank robberies. A guard like gets a sample of hair. And so they decide, they run it through a test and they're like, well, the best way to figure out what beach this surfer surfs at, due to the chemical makeup of the hair we found, is to go pull a bunch of hair out of surfers heads so that we can run it. And then when we find the correct chemical matchup. So there's like a whole scene where Gary Busey and Keanu Reeves are just pulling people's hair out or cutting it off. And Gary Busey's like, I'm making a wig from a girlfriend. And you're like, no, this is not legal. You have to get a warrant.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: And why, like, can't you just test the water?
[00:25:13] Speaker A: No.
[00:25:14] Speaker B: Or the sand at the beach?
[00:25:16] Speaker A: You have to cut Stoner's hair out. Oh. That reminded me of another line that I wanted to talk about, which at one point, Keanu Reeves is like, can I not just blend it? Do I have to learn to surf? Can I not just walk around and act stoned? And I'm like, what? You mean what you do every day? Keanu Reeves. No. Put some effort into this.
But, yeah, after they do that, they found out what beach to go to.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Yes. They found the right beach or possible correct beach.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: Then they find Anthony Kiedis. Serf thugs.
[00:25:44] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: They're his serf Nazi gang. Yep.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Yep. Very specifically Aryan.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: Even though I think they're looking very. Not majority white.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. Well, one of them's also called Warchild. Which.
[00:26:00] Speaker C: The names. Oh, I. Yeah. Just incredible.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Like Warchild, Burner Tone.
[00:26:07] Speaker C: This is. And this is where we kind of see the furthering of the bond between Bodhi and Johnny. Because Bodhi shows up when he's about to. Or as he's getting beaten up, he.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: Said, my Spidey sense is tingling for my true love.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: He just shows up out of nowhere.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And he.
[00:26:28] Speaker C: And they collectively beat them up.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: Yes. And then Gary Busey shows up, two.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Versus four against the evil, scary Nazi drug dealer guys.
[00:26:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: And they handle them, no problem.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: It's because love conquers all. And those two men love each other.
[00:26:48] Speaker C: Yep.
And so this leads us to Johnny's like, well, these guys. I. I don't like these guys. They must be the bad guys.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Surely there's the seed. They're following him and he's running the rap. Rap sheet. And, like, listen off all these things, like, oh, these are. These are the guys for sure.
[00:27:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: They just, like, drive up on the floor.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: They're driving wildly in the LA streets. Like, it's the warriors. They're just thumping on a Jeep.
So that scene was so crazy.
[00:27:17] Speaker C: Truly.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: But this does lead to what is the first big action set piece, I would say, of the movie.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: Kind of far into it, too.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Almost an hour in.
[00:27:28] Speaker C: In between, we have an important.
He goes to the party at Bode's.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: Oh, yes.
[00:27:33] Speaker C: Because they were surveilling. Then he leaves to go to the party at Bode's. This is where he and Laurie finally admit their feelings.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Yes. And they also do the night surf, which has one of my favorite lines in it, which is, Keanu Reeves is surfing and he yells I'm surfing.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: I'm surfing.
[00:27:51] Speaker C: I'm surfing.
Yeah, he's just right there.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: I cried. I cried laughing.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: And then he oversleeps.
[00:28:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: And he's late to his own raid.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Because he and Lori Petty share a night together on the beach.
[00:28:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Kind of a terrible FBI agent.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Yeah, he is late.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: It's the worst. They're kind of.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Yes. But they decide to raid the Nazi surfer's house.
And it gets.
[00:28:20] Speaker C: It's bloody.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: It hits the face with basically no guys. Like, they didn't bring any buddies with. It was just the two jerks who.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Don'T like Gary Busey and also don't like Keanu Reeves.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: Keanu Reeves, Yes.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: And, like, one other guy.
And so Gary Busey's doing what he does the whole movie when he's undercover, which is pretending he lost something.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: Right. His stolen stereo or his lost stolen dog.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:46] Speaker C: Little cock.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: A poodle.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Also, he yells Scooby. Like, the whole Scooby, just playing Gary Busey. And they bust in. Turns out these guys have an arsenal.
And it turns into like a straight up firefight.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah, and not just a firefight. You also have. You also have the woman jumping on the guy's back and stabbings.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: Oh, my. So there is, like, this is a rated R movie, yes?
[00:29:13] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I have to assume so because this is full frontal nudity, which we have this scene, which this is. Hi, we did mention earlier, this is directed by a woman. There is this scene earlier where Keanu Reeves is looking in. And we do see this woman, like, in the shower. And it feels very traditional action movie of like, oh, look, a beautiful woman in kind of like a sexual gaze. And then what this woman does is absolutely beat everyone around her to death. Like, she concusses Keanu Reeves that she, like, throws him to the ground. She throws him up against a mirror. She's still fully naked. And then at one point, she does straight up stab a man in the back multiple times. And it.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: She does more damage than most of the rest of the.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: So hardcore. And so that's when I was watching it. I'm like, yeah, a woman made this. Because this could have just been kind of like almost like a horror movie insert shot.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: She would have just screamed. You would never have seen her again.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: And she. She does scream plenty during the first part of the scene. At first, she is just in the shower screaming, and you're like, oh, is kind of like, okay, we put a hot girl in there. Whatever. No. She comes to slay. And I was like, ooh, no, don't kill anyone for your horrible boyfriend. But like, also, yes.
And it's great. But then also there are some really violent. Like there's the scene in this that is really two that are really violent. Is one is where Anthony Keatis shoots.
[00:30:36] Speaker B: Himself in the foot and it is screaming.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: It is a close up shot of bullet entering foot and then like shoe leather and coming up.
[00:30:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: And it rules.
[00:30:51] Speaker C: Yeah. It's incredible.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: And he's screaming later, after the raid's over, they're like wheeling him out and he's still like on the gurney.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Because of other reasons possibly too, but yeah. And then also, Keanu Reeves face almost gets lawn mowed.
[00:31:04] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: Yeah, that was. I feel like that's like kind of an iconic scene. Is like.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely.
[00:31:14] Speaker C: And the knife getting flipped away. It's good. Yeah.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: And then Gary Busey holding the gun up to the guy's face and saying, speak into the mud.
[00:31:24] Speaker C: Pretty good.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: He shoots the lawnmower though, right?
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: He doesn't turn it off.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: He's just like, this will be fun. Poo. I'm Gary Busey.
But this is shot really cool, them getting the weapons together and stuff. A lot of it is shot through the window from Keanu's perspective. And then also some of it is shot through the door from Gary Busey's perspective. Like, you do get like a whole feeling of what this house is laid out as. As this whole firefight's happening.
[00:31:55] Speaker C: It's very clear what's going on, despite the chaos.
[00:31:59] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:00] Speaker C: It's like, you know where everybody is, you know what's happening. Even though you're just like, whoa, Whoa.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: So well constructed. Like, you know, shot by shot and stuff. Yeah.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: And she's just like, really smart about how she uses her space, which it ends up making a lot of sense that what she ends up making are these like really hardcore war movies. Because this action sequence is so. Like you said, it's so chaotic. But you're never lost in the scene. Like, you're always following with her.
[00:32:26] Speaker C: For the other end of the spectrum, we got Michael Bay, where you're just like. The action starts and you're just like, ah, yeah.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: All you hear are guns.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: Pay attention to everything that's going on because there's so much going on on the screen.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: But it's like clear layout of who you're with at all times during this scene.
And one of which is you do get your really short scene with Tom Sizemore, who is undercover. Undercover. Actually undercover.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Actually undercover. Doing a pretty Good job, too.
[00:32:56] Speaker C: When they tackle him, it's such a mess. Like, one of their heads hits the counter as they're tackling him. It looks like an accident. Like, happened on.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: Maybe that guy concussed himself.
[00:33:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those where you're like. That stunt guy was like, you have to put that in the movie. That was messy and wonderful.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: He's like, I hurt my head. Please use that. It ruled. But, yeah. We find out that Tom Sizemore, who I was so excited to see because he's the best.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: Has been undercover dea, I believe. Yeah. Trying to bust these guys for crystal.
[00:33:32] Speaker C: Meth, which lines up. Feels like the right vibe for them.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Feels correct. And he basically. They blew his cover. Like he was trying to find out who their supplier was. And now he's never gonna know. But also, they couldn't have been robbing banks because they were in Fort Lauderdale on August 2nd.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: So these are not the guys. This is not the. This is not the time.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: And of course, the FBI boss guys, all upset.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: He's so good at being angry. There's a reason that he ended up getting cast.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: Inscribed.
[00:34:08] Speaker C: Yes.
That's a perfect role.
[00:34:13] Speaker A: Yeah. A perfect delivery of, like, him. I think in the 2015 run, he was played by Delroy Lindau. That sounds right. Which probably got the angry part right, but maybe didn't nail, like, the yuppiness that he.
[00:34:30] Speaker C: The fun yuppie quippiness of the anger.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Where you're like, I can't take this guy. Seriously. He's sucks. Where I would probably just be like, yeah, Delroy Lindell, you're right. You should yell at me.
[00:34:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:34:43] Speaker C: I'm sorry, boss.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: I'm sorry. Delroy Lindell, you are correct. You have a powerful screen presence.
[00:34:51] Speaker C: So we immediately are then revealed because of that, that these aren't our guys.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: These aren't our guys.
[00:34:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: We gotta go back to the drawing board. Why has Keanu been doing all this surfing?
[00:35:02] Speaker C: And you start to feel more and more, it's like, oh, he's willfully ignorant. Well, the heart.
The heart is leading him astray.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: It is because he loves Patrick Swayze.
[00:35:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: And so is it the next scene where it's him and Tyler, which is the Lori Petty character. They're laying in bed. Bode comes and wakes him up, and it's like, there's five foot walls out somewhere. Let's go surfing.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: She finds out he's an FBI agent first.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Does she?
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Huh. Pretty sure. And then they come and take him for the sky.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, that's for the skydiving. Because when he goes.
[00:35:41] Speaker C: We're talking about when he goes to surfing.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Surfing. And he sees the tan lines.
[00:35:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
This is when it clicks to him.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: Oh, well.
[00:35:51] Speaker C: Also, I've been blind.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: There's, like, the thing that made me laugh possibly the most in this movie is he sees the tan lines and he's like, oh, no. My fwends. My Fuenza, the bank Whoppers. And then Lori Petty goes, you look like you've seen a ghost. And then it hard cuts to a scene from Gary Busey earlier, and he's like, they're ghosts.
We can't catch them. I'm like, those two things aren't technically related outside of the word ghost. Ghost.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: Oh, boy.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: And Keanu's like, I gotta go. And it's totally normal and no one thinks it's weird.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: I forgot something.
[00:36:26] Speaker C: I forgot I have a meeting with a big new client.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: He sells a lot in this movie. He does not sell that.
[00:36:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: If I were his Lori Petty girlfriend, I'd be like, you're lying. Immediately. What's wrong with you? You're being weird. Stop it.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:41] Speaker A: But he ends up tailing them to a bank and realizes they're casing the joint.
[00:36:47] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: And so we have to do a stakeout.
And this is the best scene in the movie. I do really like this guy.
[00:36:58] Speaker C: It's really good.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:00] Speaker C: It's also Gary Busey asking for two meatball sandwiches.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: I never wanted a meatball sandwich so bad in my life.
Except for when watching this video.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: It made me try meatball sandwiches for the first time in my life many years ago.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Like, you know. But yes, it was. That scene specifically led me to try and meet.
[00:37:21] Speaker C: Well, he loves meatballs.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: Gotta be good.
He's gotta eat.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: At one point, he says, I'm so hungry, I should have had to get you three meatball sandwiches. And I'm like, gary Busey, your heart can't take this.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: And. And Keanu gets a tuna on wheat.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Yes. Because he's a healthy young quarterback.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Cost $7.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: Oh, I know. I was like. For three samples for three sandwiches and two lemonades. Two lemonades would cost $6 these days. Oh, my gosh. I'm so. Let's talk about inflation.
But this scene is great when he's ordering the sandwiches because you're looking at him through the shop, through the shop window.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Of the window.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: And then you see a car park outside a door of the bank. And who gets out of it? It's a bunch of men in president's masks.
And he doesn't see any of it. They all rush out of the car and get into the bank before he turns around.
[00:38:17] Speaker C: Like, if it was making his transaction dry, it would seem comedic.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: It is.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: Cause, like, they play it like they're just like, Yep.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: You could 100% play Yakety sacks over it. That's exactly what it's going to happen.
And you'd be like, oh, no.
Because that's the energy of it. And he gets back to the car.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: With the sandwiches, and Gary Busey's, like, reading the paper. Like he wasn't paying attention.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: No, he's reading like, Marmaduke or something. And he's like, anyway, I'm gonna eat these sandwiches. He says a very colorful line that we cannot say on the podcast that did make me go, tee hee hee hee hee.
And then Keanu Reeves is like, hey, what's with the Lincoln?
[00:38:55] Speaker C: Like, he knows the car on his way back, at the very least.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:38:58] Speaker C: Did you notice that Lincoln pull up, parked. What Lincoln?
[00:39:01] Speaker B: In front of the bank, five feet from a stop sign.
[00:39:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: Yes. Super. Illegally parked. And then they see them running out of the bank. Cue yakety sacks again. And they're like, oh, no.
[00:39:15] Speaker C: There's like a.
[00:39:17] Speaker A: And so this really great chase scene starts where they're in the car. Then they do. They set the car on fire.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: So Kiana shoots at them. They get into the car, they're chasing them around. They get to the one parking lot and they blow their tires. Is it the tires that get blown? Something's wrong with their. The presidents have to trade their car out.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: So they're like, they rob someone of their car. And then it's Patrick Swayze still in the Ronald Reagan mask. Goes like, don't be a hero to some dude who is getting gaslied. And then takes the gas pump and lights a lighter in front of it.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: Got himself a little flamethrower.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: And fire sprays the old car so they can't get any DNA evidence. And then is the Keanu Reeves Ronald Reagan chase scene.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: He comes jumping out of the fire to tackle him, and they do a little thing and the other presidents take off. And that's why it's a foot chase. It's just between Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Bodhi Ronald Reagan, who is on fire.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: On fire.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: And then just begins running away. And this chase scene is so beautiful and cool.
[00:40:32] Speaker B: I Love a good 90s alley shaky chase scene. Wow. So good.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: And then it's like kind of switching Perspectives, they're going through houses. Like, at one point, Patrick Swayze throws a dog at him.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Whole pit bull comes flying at him.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: The first time I saw that, I, like, loud gasped. I was, no, I laughed.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Not my bab.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Have a. You assisted pit bull, you donkey. But truly, I was just like, oh, look, there's a dog. Oh, no, he's throwing the dog. And I was like, what a wild choice.
[00:41:06] Speaker C: I think there's also like, wow, it's.
[00:41:10] Speaker A: The Scooby noise from earlier. Scary Busey's fake dog.
But, like, it's so cool. It's so well shot. Like, the perspective of it is so awesome. I watched it twice whenever I watched it the other night. Like, I rewound it and watched it again.
Once again, just like Kathryn Bigelow's perspective is so sick. And if it weren't for her way of visualizing this movie, this movie would be like a kind of a joke, kind of, like, kind of trite. The first few Fast and Furious movies, which I love, but are not like masterpieces, they're popcorn movies. Yes. Like, this movie has some really cool stuff in it that looks great. And this is. This is one of them. And then we get to, I don't know, the dumbest shot in the movie. That absolutely rules.
[00:42:01] Speaker C: That's absolutely. The way you describe it.
The most lampooned shot from this movie.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: Yeah. The one that they spoofed in Hot Fuzz.
[00:42:10] Speaker C: Yeah. And a million other things. It is the iconic moment from this movie.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Yes. Which is Keanu Reeves cannot shoot the love of his life, Patrick Swayze. He falls down, hurts himself, his knee again. He comes back. He cannot, cannot get a break with that thing. And since he cannot shoot Patrick Swayze, he shoots into the air and screams. Empties his mag six times just to show that he is heartbroken. But he is still masculine.
Patrick Swayze's baby blues.
[00:42:43] Speaker C: And he looks back, there's a zoom in on his eyes through the mask.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: He's waiting to get shot.
[00:42:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Like he's expects.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: He pauses at the top of the. The fence waiting to be shot.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: I think that's the per. First moment where you're like, bodhi wants to die.
[00:42:58] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. He's on. He's on a mission.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you get a little bit of that when he's doing the flamethrower thing with the car. Because the other guys really want, like, hey, what's he doing?
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Let's just get out.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Why is he not leaving? Because he was changing, like, yeah, his character there.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: But yeah, that's kind of the first moment where he snaps and then you see it again there.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
I just thought while we were talking about that whole chase scene is another movie that owes this movie a ton is Baby Driver.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: Oh, I really like that movie.
[00:43:32] Speaker C: So good.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:34] Speaker C: But, yeah, just like, chase scenes and, like, heist scenes, I think, totally in that movie. Owe this movie a ton.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that reference, visually straightforward comedy. But, yeah, definitely, like, yeah, tone of.
[00:43:47] Speaker C: The movie, totally different. But, like, they're like, I. I love Point Break, so therefore, I'll make my own fun, silly version that's also very.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Dark, which is also. I mean, that's. I can't think of his name right now. I lost it. But that's the same director who made Ha. Fuzz, Right?
[00:44:02] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: So he just.
[00:44:03] Speaker C: He's a big fan.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: He likes. He likes Point Break.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: Point Break out. Yeah. But then. Pretty. It kind of rolls downhill from here, like the first. Then Lori Petty finds out, yes, that's an FBI agent because she has patched him up. He's lied to her and said it was a hit and run.
And then she wakes up in the night while there is kind of like the meeting of the surf bros that are like, he's been busted. His not very good cover has been blown. And they're like, what are we gonna do? And Patrick Swayze's like, I'm gonna handle this. And then you wake up to Keanu Reeves being shot, and you think it's Patrick Swayze. It's not. It's Lori Petty. She's mad. His parents are dead. They live in Ohio.
[00:44:50] Speaker C: And very quickly from there, like, he shows up.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: We're going skydiving.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Yes. There's like a montage phone call to Lori Petty where he's like, why can I never say what I mean? I love you. I miss you. Come back.
[00:45:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: And then there's someone knocking on his door, and he thinks that's Laurie Petty. And it's not. It's Patrick Swayze.
[00:45:08] Speaker C: And this is confusing upon first watch because you're like, wait, they know he's the fda?
[00:45:14] Speaker B: Yeah, they saw him up close.
Clearly they're pretending.
[00:45:19] Speaker C: I think she does a good job of intentionally letting the audience probably feel the confusion that Keanu felt of being like, okay, I guess I'll just go along with this.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: I was like, hey, buddy, just say, I have plans today. You don't have to go with Patrick.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: Swayze every time he asks.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Zen Buddhist surf gang. Except for that he does.
[00:45:40] Speaker C: Cause he's in love.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: Cause he's in love with him. Yep. And this, he takes them skydiving, which is so radical to watch.
[00:45:55] Speaker C: One of the best skydiving scenes.
[00:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:58] Speaker C: And, like, in all movies, you know.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: Like, considered to be some of the best skydiving scenes, it led to a huge jump in people actually wanting to.
[00:46:08] Speaker A: Go skydive and jumping. Yeah, a huge jump in people.
[00:46:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: But how do you think they shot this? Because, like, they had to also skydive with them, right?
[00:46:22] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:23] Speaker A: I mean, like, what was the camera equipment like on that day, jumping out of the plane?
[00:46:28] Speaker C: I can't imagine shooting film skydiving.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: I don't know. But it was 1991.
[00:46:34] Speaker C: So big.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: Like, were they shooting digital at that point?
[00:46:39] Speaker C: No.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: And definitely some of it is done, particularly the close ups of Keanu Crane work. They did some crane work and things like that. But we were talking about it earlier. Patrick Swayze did a ton of his own stunts for this movie. He jumped out of a plane like 55 times for this film.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: Specifically, the. The. The scene where he jumps out and says adios or whatever. He. He jumps there. There is a scene of him jumping out. And it is actually Patrick Swayze legitimately jumping out of the. The airplane for a skydive that they.
[00:47:13] Speaker C: Because it's like the camera operator jumps out. So you see him falling. Yeah, yeah.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: You. Apparently, they apparently literally had to tell Patrick Swayze, for your health, hey, stop doing that. You can't do this anymore. On something I read for it. He said he probably came close to dying somewhere between six and 10 times while making this movie.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: Like, he broke his rib. Like he was injured. Yeah.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Like, he really put himself on the line for this movie. Which is crazy when you think about. He's like, I'm gonna really commit to my art for the server bank heist movie. This is the one.
But it really pays off for this film.
[00:47:53] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, yeah. You see it all on the screen. Yeah. It's all worth the effort.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: And then they do the great scene where they all hold hands in the sky because they love each other.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Even though we know for 20 minutes at this point that they know he's a FBI agent.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: Yes. He's full Brutus. Like, he has ratted them out. But then they're like, let's pull in the sky. I love you, buddy. You're part of our kamikaze surfer gang.
[00:48:25] Speaker B: And then they. They don't. They. They don't pull, right.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: Oh, well, they, like, are. Once again, they play chicken in an embrace.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: Where they are trying to get the Other one to pull first.
[00:48:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:37] Speaker A: And then Patrick Swayze pulls Keanu's. Yeah.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: He pulls Johnny Utah's thing. You know, Johnny Utah's was just. He was just gonna hit the ground like, no, I don't care.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: Which is foreshadowing for something that happens later because this all happens in like the next 30 minutes of this film. And it's crazy. It all rolls downhill, but they land. And then we find out that the reason that they took him skydiving is so that they could steal his girlfriend without him noticing.
[00:49:00] Speaker B: Right.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yeah. They've kidnapped Lori Petty. The scary guy who doesn't surf. His whole job is just to be scary.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: His name is Rosie.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Rosie, yes.
[00:49:08] Speaker C: Also. Yeah.
[00:49:09] Speaker A: Uh huh. Love that.
[00:49:11] Speaker C: Such a.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: The actor that they have playing him I thought was really weird too, because he's not like a big tough guy. Yeah. I mean, not that Patrick Swayze is either, like a big tough looking guy.
[00:49:21] Speaker C: No.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: But like he looks like a grunge greaser.
[00:49:24] Speaker C: Right.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: Like it's. I went. I did look up just because. Especially his look. And because this film came out in 1991. If something comes out in 1991, I go, where did this come out in relation to nirvanas? Nevermind.
Two months before this movie came out. Two months before Nevermind. But it does feel like it was already catching that energy of like, we're nihilistic, we hate capitalism, we're punk rock.
[00:49:46] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, we're doing this to fight the system.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And especially that guy already looks like such a Seattle grunge head.
[00:49:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: Except for in this beautiful California sunshine next to all these bonfires. All the time.
But yeah.
[00:50:03] Speaker B: And he's the one that. He's the one that Bodhi keeps around to do the nasty work.
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Because Bodhi hates violence.
[00:50:08] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: He says so. He's like, I hate violence. That's why I have to keep this man around to do all my violence for me. And we're like, hey, Patrick Swayze, that's still. You are still the one asking for the violence. That actually doesn't keep you from the blame in this. You did. That man would not have kidnapped this woman if you hadn't have told him to. And then held a knife to her throat on. And then it's on the craziest VCR I've ever seen in the back of a van.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: I still don't understand how all that works. Like, no. How was that happening? How did he have that video?
[00:50:41] Speaker A: I'm like, did he mail it to you? When did this happen? Was it VCR yeah, I would just say it's not. We're in 1991. It's not a live stream. No one held up a newspaper or anything either. I don't know. It was crazy. Anyway, we're blackmailing Johnny Utah.
[00:50:56] Speaker C: And we're off to a heist.
[00:50:59] Speaker B: Yeah. They wanted to rob a bank.
[00:51:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: Why?
[00:51:02] Speaker C: Well, we need one more.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: They need one more bank. But also they want to incriminate. Incriminate Johnny Utah because they're all gonna wear their normal gear, but Johnny Utah's.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Going, no mask for you, J.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: No presidency mask.
They go into this bank, they're starting to rob it.
The gig's all good. Except for that Patrick Swayze has snapped. This is Patrick Swayze's episode of snapped.
[00:51:34] Speaker C: It is really fascinating because you see the charisma from earlier in the movie, but it's just elevated to. Oh, no, he is unhinged. Yes.
[00:51:46] Speaker A: This is like he has reached full cult leader status where he.
[00:51:50] Speaker C: He just looks like he's vibrating.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: Understands how much power he has over these men in his life. And he breaks the one rule they've always had.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Don't go for the vault.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Don't go for the vault. Takes too much time because the whole gig that they have is in and out in 90 seconds. But since they're wasting this time.
[00:52:11] Speaker B: And not just that, but the. Those other guys left the floor so there's less guys watching.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: The people. The people, yes.
There's an off duty cop there.
Things pop off.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And go badly for the first time.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: In a bank robbery. They lose a guy, and Keanu Reeves is wearing a bulletproof vest and nobody thinks to shoot him in the face. So he's fine.
[00:52:35] Speaker B: Yep. Of course.
I guess it was nice they gave him the vest.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: I guess so. Yeah. They didn't have to.
[00:52:42] Speaker C: Well, the love goes both ways.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: Here's the thing.
[00:52:44] Speaker C: I know he's like, we want to get you in trouble, but we still want you to be around.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: I want to get you in trouble so that you have to join my gang and be with me all the time.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: You have to love me.
[00:52:58] Speaker A: How could you not love this hair?
Yeah. But they get caught. They try to arrest Keanu Reeves. The guy from Scrubs come back and is like, I hate you. You're stupid.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: I knew this was gonna happen, you big loser.
[00:53:14] Speaker A: Uh huh. You're tired. And also, you know who else I hate? Gary Bus.
[00:53:19] Speaker C: And Gary Busey just cold cock knocks him out.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:53:24] Speaker A: And it rules.
[00:53:26] Speaker C: And you're just like.
[00:53:27] Speaker B: And you're like. And for A little while. You're like, oh, well, he's gonna get fired. Yeah, yeah, for a little while.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: Well, but for some reason, because the movie has to go on, I suppose they're like, well, yeah, you can drive Johnny Utah to jail. Gary Busey, even though you just punched your supervisor boss.
[00:53:48] Speaker C: Also, nobody like went in to like grab him or anything. They're just like.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: It's because they all hate that dude.
[00:53:54] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah. They're like, I wanted to do it too.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: They're like, yeah, he's rude to all of us and tells us we can't have sugar. We hate that guy.
But they. Johnny's like, I know that they're going to go to this plane. They're gonna fly to Mexico. Let's go to the airport.
[00:54:16] Speaker C: Gotta save my Tyler.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Gary Busey's a good friend. So he drives him to the airport.
Hard to find these days. And so they try to trap them. There's another quick firefight. I would say it's not quite as.
[00:54:31] Speaker C: It's not drawn out.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: No.
[00:54:33] Speaker C: By any means. But it is a lot of slow mo. And like dramatic.
[00:54:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:54:38] Speaker C: Hard, hard hitting shots of Gary Busey being gunned down.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: Yes. Shot in the back.
[00:54:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:46] Speaker A: And Johnny Utah's screaming, no, no.
[00:54:50] Speaker B: I really, I have to. Good point. To talk about James La Gross. I really love James La Gross. He plays Roach.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: He's love James legros so much and you know, kind of an unsung hero in this movie, I think. Yeah.
[00:55:03] Speaker C: Like subtle heavy lifting in the background there.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Cuz he's the guy who, when they sort of have the meeting after finding out that Johnny Utah is the FBI agent is like, this was all fun and games until now. That guy knows who we are. He is a federal agent and we got a bounce. And Patrick Swayze gives his. We're not doing this for the money. We're doing this to let the people know they're alive. All driving up there in their metal coffins. And I was like, yeah, brother, you tell them. But then also when I'm like, oh, no, you're scary.
You're in it because you're an adrenaline junkie. That's truly what this all comes down to, is living for the thrills.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: And they do a good job of making you believe that that's who he is at the beginning of the movie, the Zen surfing master guy. You don't really get the.
That crazy side of him until you dig in a little bit.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think she did a really good job of playing that out sells the flip of like, I'm living life for a spiritual, you know, spiritual awakening. And when reality is like, I'm living life to feel alive at any cost.
And it really just like, once the thrill starts to die and he's in too deep, he'll just keep digging, just keeps pushing and take anyone down with him to where he ends up with just him. Patrick Swayze, Roach, and Johnny on the plane to try to go get Tyler.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: They're flying over Mexico.
The craziest thing in the movie when Roach is like, I'm cold. Cause he got shot. And then Johnny Utah just says, it's cause all the blood's leaving your body. You're gonna die.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: You dead, Roach.
[00:56:59] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:56:59] Speaker A: And I was like, that's not very comforting. I understand. This man has really hurt your feelings. However, that's pretty insane.
[00:57:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: And then. So they strap a parachute on Roach, Toss Roach out with the money.
[00:57:13] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: And then Patrick Swayze, Bodhi jumps out of the airplane with a parachute, leaving Johnny Utah stranded behind with no parachute.
[00:57:22] Speaker A: Has that ever stopped Keanu Reeves? No, it hasn't.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: What's gonna happen? Does he jump out of the plane? Yeah, he jumps out of the plane.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: He jumps out of the plane with no parachute so that he has to bear hug Patrick Swayze because they are in love.
[00:57:35] Speaker C: Yep.
And Swayze has the gall to say, you're crazy, man.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: But when he says that, he like, that's respect.
[00:57:46] Speaker C: Yeah. It sounded like love. You're crazy.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: He's like, I love you.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: And he's got the gun. And he's like, you got to drop the gun so he can pull the chute. I'm not going to pull the chute.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: He's like, or you either have to shoot me and pull the shoot, or.
[00:57:58] Speaker C: We can die in each other's embrace.
[00:58:00] Speaker A: Yes. Or you're gonna have to let go of the gun and not be able to kill me. And he's like. Which I know you can't do because you already didn't shoot me earlier when I was gonna let you shoot me. Cause we're in love. And yeah, Patrick Swayze gets away.
Roach. I don't know how Roach lived long enough to pull the cord on his parachute, but he did. But let me tell you, he is dead when he hits the ground.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: Very dead.
[00:58:25] Speaker A: And all the money is Flo.
Which is a pretty fabulous scene.
[00:58:29] Speaker C: Yeah. It's nice to see it, like, blowing.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Out in the desert. Cash just blowing. Yeah.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: Rosie pulls up in the Jeep. They let Tyler go.
Patrick Swayze gets in The Jeep. This could be the end of the movie. We could be really nihilistic.
But there's. There's one last scene.
[00:58:49] Speaker C: Yep. This.
The first time I saw this movie. I was like, they're. They pay off every mention. They. At the party, they. Earlier in the movie where they do the night surf. They're talking about the biggest waves, the 50 year storm. The biggest waves, the 50 year storm. I forget the name of the beach, but it's in Australia.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:14] Speaker C: So it cut to nine months later. Nine months later, it's Keanu walking through a storm.
[00:59:21] Speaker A: His hair has grown out. So that we know time has passed.
[00:59:24] Speaker B: But real good bookend, you know, he's wet again.
[00:59:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: Yeah. He's in the rain.
[00:59:29] Speaker B: In the rain. And the end of the movie. He's wet in the rain.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: Yes. And he.
[00:59:33] Speaker C: He's walking by a bunch of servers like, oh, no, man. No. He's out there. They have to have a death wish. Yeah.
[00:59:39] Speaker A: But there's one man.
[00:59:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:41] Speaker A: There's one man standing on the beach waiting for his long lost love.
[00:59:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: And Keanu Reeves throws a Ronald Reagan mask at him.
[00:59:52] Speaker B: Here you go.
[00:59:53] Speaker A: He's like, think you dropped something, bruh.
[00:59:58] Speaker B: Bruh. Yeah.
[01:00:01] Speaker A: I'll cry.
[01:00:05] Speaker B: I gotta take you back, man.
[01:00:06] Speaker A: He's like, a bunch of people died. You have to pay consequences. And Patrick Swayze says, you know, I can't live in a cage, man. Which also made me cackle.
[01:00:17] Speaker B: And then they brawl a terrible fight on the beach where they're kind of just throwing each other around.
[01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah. It's real wrestly.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:23] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:00:24] Speaker C: Real like, brother. Yeah.
[01:00:26] Speaker A: They can't hurt each other.
[01:00:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:28] Speaker B: He drowns him a little bit, but then he lets go.
[01:00:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:32] Speaker B: And then. And then they're hanging out together. Yep. Yeah. And that's. That's Johnny Utah's final play.
[01:00:38] Speaker C: There's a helicopter overhead.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah. The guys are coming in.
[01:00:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:41] Speaker A: And Patrick Swayze says, you gotta let me go, man.
[01:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just gonna go surf this one time.
[01:00:47] Speaker A: That's my destiny out there.
[01:00:49] Speaker B: I'll come back.
[01:00:49] Speaker A: I promise I'll come back. He's like, where am I gonna swim? There's cliffs on either side. You're gonna get ocean out there.
[01:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:55] Speaker A: And the. He lets him go into the ocean. And the Australian police show up doing super interesting Australian accents. Those men are definitely Australian.
And they're like, we'll get him when he comes back. And Johnny Utah says, he's not coming back. He's not coming back.
[01:01:16] Speaker B: He walks away sad, throws his badge down so that we know, like, okay, I'm gonna be an FBI agent for this whole nine months. I'm gonna track you down to the other side of the world. Then I'm gonna let you go and throw my badge in the dirt.
[01:01:28] Speaker A: And I'm still surfing every day.
[01:01:29] Speaker C: Yep, Yep.
[01:01:30] Speaker A: I'm gonna be a crazy nihilist.
Live my life for the wave. Point Break.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Point Break.
[01:01:38] Speaker C: What a film.
[01:01:40] Speaker A: Really great.
[01:01:42] Speaker C: So we should give some cultural context around this movie. You were mentioning Nirvana.
[01:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah, Nevermind.
[01:01:49] Speaker C: But some other. So the top 10 movies of 1991.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: Oh, gorge.
[01:01:54] Speaker C: Terminator 2. Judgment Day.
[01:01:55] Speaker A: Yes. Made by James Cameron. Right.
[01:01:58] Speaker B: James Cameron, who was involved in Point Break.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: Executive producer Kathryn Bigelow and him were married at the time.
[01:02:04] Speaker C: You guys will see, as this list goes on, a stacked year for movies like the year of the blockbusters.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:02:10] Speaker C: Robin. Prince of Thieves.
[01:02:12] Speaker A: We love Kevin Costner.
[01:02:14] Speaker C: Home Alone.
Silence of the Lambs.
[01:02:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Rules.
[01:02:20] Speaker C: City Slickers.
[01:02:21] Speaker A: Fun.
[01:02:21] Speaker C: We have all the flavors.
[01:02:22] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:02:23] Speaker C: Dances With Wolves.
[01:02:25] Speaker B: Kevin Costner.
[01:02:25] Speaker A: Again, more Kevin Costner. He can't be stopped.
[01:02:27] Speaker C: Sleeping with the Enemy.
[01:02:29] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:02:29] Speaker C: The Addams Family.
Naked Gun two and a Half. The Smell of Fear.
[01:02:35] Speaker A: Okay, that was a little different.
[01:02:38] Speaker C: And then rounding out the top 10, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. The secret of the Ooze.
[01:02:43] Speaker B: Secret of the Ooze.
[01:02:44] Speaker A: A movie I watched on ABC Family no less than 700 times.
[01:02:47] Speaker C: Absolutely.
You're mentioning TV. So we were discussing action movies from the 90s leading up to us recording this. There's so many action movies that I saw only on TV for years.
[01:03:02] Speaker A: Was this one of them?
[01:03:03] Speaker C: This was one of them. And when I finally saw it, I was like, this is a different movie than I thought it was.
[01:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure.
[01:03:10] Speaker C: Because you mentioned you had never seen it in completion.
[01:03:13] Speaker A: No, I've seen huge chunks of it, probably on television. And then also just because, like, it is such a culture, like a. What's the word I'm looking for? It's such a huge part of the culture, and it is so referenced. And so, like, when we decided we were gonna do this movie, you sent us the meme of Johnny Utah and the rain just, like, turning around in the thumbs up, like, is. It's impossible not to encounter Point Break in some way or another. It's even referenced. I was reading earlier in, like, the Marvel films.
[01:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They call Thor Point Break.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: Because of the hair.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: Because of the hair.
[01:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:03:44] Speaker B: He's got the Patrick Swayze do.
[01:03:46] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, I do remember one little Easter egg that they had. Is that When Johnny was tailing Patrick Swayze, he says that he went to lunch at Patrick's Roadhouse. And I was just like, okay, all right.
[01:04:04] Speaker B: Subtle.
[01:04:05] Speaker C: Just a nice little.
[01:04:07] Speaker B: Real subtle, guys.
[01:04:08] Speaker C: That was a nice moment.
[01:04:10] Speaker A: Rules. This movie rules.
[01:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah. So just a couple more facts about this movie. The budget was 24 million. It grossed 43 million domestic, 83.5 worldwide. Huge movie in the 90s.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great, but wasn't super.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Like, had a really mixed critical acclaim.
[01:04:31] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, especially in the slate of films of that it came. It was 26th in the year's top movies. Okay, so, like, pretty good, but, like, just kind of a tough year to be like, I'm gonna make an action movie.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: I was reading some stuff on, like, people who reviewed it, and they were basically like, well, this movie would have been pretty stupid if it weren't for Kathryn Bigelow. And I think that that's true.
[01:05:01] Speaker C: I think. I hardly agree with that, that she.
[01:05:04] Speaker A: Really did have a vision. There was like. I think it was maybe the Roger Ebert quote about it that I really loved that it's like, this is not a movie about two men who need action in their lives. It's a movie about two men with their own philosophies who choose to engage those philosophies through action. And I said, yes.
That's mad insightful, Roger. Er, well done. Yeah. Where it really is just like she really commits to the fact that these two men have a life philosophy. And that's probably why they vibe so well together. That's probably why they're like, I love you, man. Because they both have this structure to their life and they see something in each other and it's their way of acting upon it. And so she made this very female gaze. Yeah, Hardcore masculine action movie, which you don't really get a lot of.
[01:05:57] Speaker C: And she has continued to refine that vision through other subject matters to the.
[01:06:06] Speaker A: Point of being an Oscar award winning director.
[01:06:09] Speaker B: You can really kind of see, okay, yeah, this person's gonna win an Oscar. It's not that hard to track some of those shots with Oscar winning shots from Zero Dark Thirty and Hurt Locker.
[01:06:19] Speaker A: And stuff like that. Yeah, really beautiful. And she ends up being the first woman ever to win a directing Oscar. And like, that checks out to me.
[01:06:27] Speaker C: Absolutely.
Would you like to hear the two taglines more than anything?
100% pure adrenaline.
[01:06:37] Speaker A: Thank God.
[01:06:39] Speaker C: And then 27 banks in three years. Anything to catch the perfect wave.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: Can we also talk about how at one point this movie was just gonna be called Johnn Johnny Utah.
[01:06:50] Speaker C: Oh, no.
[01:06:51] Speaker A: Then they were gonna call it Riders on the Storm, like the Doors sog.
[01:06:57] Speaker C: That would have been such a bad needle drop, which they would absolutely have.
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Done if they named it. They were like, we can't do that. This movie actually has a pretty rad soundtrack. It's got some cool stuff on it and it's got some Jimi Hendrix on it. So it would have been so out of the way to do Riders on the Storm. But that is not the right energy for this film. Even though they were like, Patrick Swayze can still sort of have Jim Morrison's hair even if we don't call it writers on the store.
[01:07:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Johnny Utah.
[01:07:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
Do we have any final thoughts about Point Break Rules?
[01:07:31] Speaker A: Watch it.
[01:07:31] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Hearty recommend.
[01:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, like I said, if you enjoy any kind of action movie, you owe it to yourself.
Heist movies, you know, just like we were talking about Catherine Bigelow's kind of early movies. It's. It's interesting to watch where, you know, big time directors come from. And yeah, I think this really gives you a good insight into that.
[01:07:55] Speaker A: And it is an action movie by someone who does have a vision and you don't always get those.
[01:08:02] Speaker C: Yep. I'm very excited to watch Near Dark now.
[01:08:05] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. That sounds. Should we go watch that together right now?
[01:08:10] Speaker C: I think we all need that.
[01:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:08:13] Speaker C: Well, I will just end with the usual. Thank you for listening. If you have any questions, comments, concerns. If you want to tell us why you love Point Break, you can reach out to
[email protected] with the subject line Point Break. I guess we'd love to hear from you, but. Yeah, thanks for being with me it today, guys.
[01:08:38] Speaker A: Always happy to be with my friends.
[01:08:39] Speaker B: This was the best.
[01:08:40] Speaker C: The best. All right, bye.
